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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:11 pm Reply with quote

I paid 26 bucks for it plus shipping am I crazy?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:31 pm Reply with quote

Not too crazy.

At the least you get almost an ounce of silver.
When you get it look at the cent. Every 1961 proof cent I ever saw has the nibble out of the top of the 6 from a hub break. Some also have that break plus doubling on the top of GOD listed as 1-O-II in Wexlers old book.

I hope it's in the original package and envelope.

I had some sets since I got em in the 70s-80s but I thought "who needs these boxes and envelopes" now I realize they sell for a bit less without that stuff.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:38 pm Reply with quote

this is the set that is suppose to have the hald dollar double die in it. it says it is unopened and his feed back is 99.9. so you think I should open it?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:40 pm Reply with quote

220050720191 this is the auction number for a unopened set. so it should be all original. only time will tell.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:44 pm Reply with quote

here is the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D220050720191%26fvi%3D1&item=220050720191&rd=1
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:03 pm Reply with quote

Good that it has the envelope.

I'd look but not hold my breath hoping for the DDO half Wink
Statisticaly it's like a penny you find, you look but they are most often just regular ones.

I recently read this guide on ebay, the writter has some good cautions on sealed 50s-60s sets. He says most have been steamed opened and checked let's hope it's not as bad as he claims but he has good points to make.

http://reviews.ebay.com/How-to-Buy-Proof-Sets-of-the-50-apos-s-amp-60-apos-s-on-eBay_W0QQugidZ10000000000842894

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:21 pm Reply with quote

thank you for that link now all I can do is wait and see. and you say I should open it? well who knows I am due for a change of luck so I might just have to open it. Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:26 pm Reply with quote

think I am done buying for a while just won another auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=320048256281&rd=1&rd=1 now i am tapped out. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:40 pm Reply with quote

I'd look but I would steam it open so you still have the undamaged envelope and not open the inside plastic bag unless I saw something amazing. Being in the plastic bag keeps them nicer than flips.

I also believe that someday there might be a better value for un-broken up proof sets (today it makes little differance). Just because so many people open them, maybe someday when most are already opened it will matter.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:44 pm Reply with quote

well I will have 2 more proof sets to add to the 1961 set so i guess I am moving up a lil in my collection. But damn it I still want to find that 1992D closed AM Cool thinks they are still out there?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:20 pm Reply with quote

I saw that 92-D close AM sell on ebay a few months back...

It was graded (I think au with corrosion) and the most ugly cent you can imagine, stained, corroded and looked like the junk I find in fast food parking lots but still went for a fortune.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:12 pm Reply with quote

IMNSHACO (in my not so humble and cynical opinion) there's completely, absolutely, positively, 100% no such thing as an "unopened" proof or mint set. It's WAY to easy to steam them open and reseal the envelope.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:30 pm Reply with quote

If my information is correct the mint and proof sets of the days were barely seald so if its stuck real good its prob been steamed. I got a sealed box of 20 1963 mint set that were still sealed in the delivery box awhile back and the envelope were barely sealed if they were at all so. But who knows what time and moisture can do

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Ain't no such animal! If you got it from the mint, and it was sealed, maybe it ain't so, but! I open every one, because I Also check to see what the individual coin values are. That is why I, and others cut out a single coin from the mint, or break open the proof sets. In fact, not long ago, I opened a 1980-S proof set, because the top of the dime had a very clear "struck thru" from the forehead to the back of the hair. I have the same situation on a 2005-S proof. The oxen have something "struck thru" going from the right shoulder of the near ox, up and over to the off oxen's rump. My advice: OPEN IT! It is always a proof set. You may find a nice surprise. Then maybe not. Your call.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:15 pm Reply with quote

Darrel, I hope you don't feel offended, but If you don't have a coin evaluating guide of some sort, you are going to pay too much. I do, and am aware of it. It pays to know with whom one deals. If it is one you need for a filler, or whatever, to make a complete set, the extra cost is warranted, bucause as time gioes by, you slowly get a return on the over pay.
Happy hunting.
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