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Is this an '89 transitional?
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MaryJF
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:48 am Reply with quote

Hi Mary - This very well could be a RDV-005 on a 1989 Lincoln cent. However, the jury is still out concerning the validity of this particular find. There are two factors that may take this off the list of being a transitional die; the first is die polishing that may have deformed the letter "G" into looking similar to the RDV-005 "G" or die wear that erroded the bar of the RDV-006 "G" into appearing similar to the RDV-005 "G".

This is the only transitional cent in question at this time, for the two 1988 Lincoln cents (one from Philadelphia and the other from Denver) with RDV-006 reverse are believe to be true transitional dies.

Dr. James Wiles is doing the analysis on this die I am sure that he will soon let the numismatic community what is up with this newly found error.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:15 am Reply with quote

Someone has already picked up on the Transitional Cents.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:27 am Reply with quote

I was aware of this auction and fortunately, this die is valid and is not contraversial as is the 1989 Lincoln cent with RDV-005 reverse.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:39 pm Reply with quote

I found several that looked like it but I'm not sure about them. One reason is I can see die wear and polish or strike issues that could have made RDV-6 look like RDV-5.

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I searched a few thousand 1989-P cents and found 4 that look like they have a different G. They seem to not have the details that RDV-6 should have. I think it might just be related to the strikes and I think these are RDV-6 but wanted other opinions to be sure. Please tell me if any of these 4 could be RDV-5 or are poorly struck RDV-6: Confused

(the reason I think they are not RDV-5 is the bottom of the G looks less rounded than I expected for RDV-5 but the center horizontal detail that RDV-6 should have looks to be missing so I am still not sure)


The 4 1989-P cents with different looking G:









Example of RDV-6 (on a 1989) and RDV-5 (on a 1988):


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:03 pm Reply with quote

I can see what you mean about the die polishing. Below is another example I found, and I can clearly see something going on with the "G". My question - since the F and G are so close together, how can they possibly come that close to the F and not do it harm also? It looks nice and thick and well formed and yet the G has so much damage.




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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:19 pm Reply with quote

I would call that die flow. Could or may not be from the same die as die flow happens on older die states.
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The 1989-RDV was just delisted with apologies by Dr. James Wiles of CONECA.
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