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D42Advanced Member
Posts: 108 Joined: 09 Jan 2008
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:51 pm |
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Does this look like die doubling, maybe die # 2?
The spot on it looks like it might be ink, if this is a double die
How can I remove the ink without damaging the coin?
Drew
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:04 am |
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Hi Drew,
You definitely have die -002 (1941P-1DO-002) Congrats on a very nice find. As far as removing the ink, I don't know of anything to do that with. I would not attempt to clean it unless someone else has a suggestion that will not damage the patina,
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:19 am |
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A dip in acetone may do the trick and will not harm the coin.
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:30 pm |
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Yep it's 1DO-OO2, neat find.
Try acetone, if that's ink it will get it off. Don't scrub or rub with anything, if it is tough to get off try soaking it longer or spraying right on the stain with one of those plastic acetone bottles. It won't hurt the coin.
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D42Advanced Member
Posts: 108 Joined: 09 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:46 pm |
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I tried the acetone and some of it came off,
Do you think that it would be safe if I put a little acetone in a
small glass jar and let it soak for a couple of days?
Drew
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RhubarbSenior Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:20 pm |
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Nice Coin. If you do soak it again I wouldn't do it for avery long period.
Rhubarb
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:51 pm |
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Acetone will not hurt a coin and I have let one sit in the stuff for about five days without any adverse affects.
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RhubarbSenior Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:26 pm |
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BJ,
Didn't know that! Thank's for the info. I was under the impression that all cleaners were bad when it came to preserving the patina. Thank's
Rhubarb
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:22 am |
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I found this same variety last night. It is the best example out of the 4 that I have. There is a small bit of corrosion on the new example, but it is on the reverse and doesn't affect the doubling on the obverse.
D42....if you do attempt to remove the ink stain with acetone, please let us know how it comes out..OK??
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:28 am |
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D42, hi! I have heard that you should use the pure, or professional Acetone, rather than the more common "Nail polish remover. It does have some additives. I don't use it. It leaves an un-natural "glow on the coin, (Canadian cent, in this csae).
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D42Advanced Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:14 pm |
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Bob,
I am going to take it out later today or tomorrow and see if any more of the ink came off
I’ll post another picture of it this weekend.
I did find another 1941 that has doubling on it, but I’m not sure if it’s die one or die two
It does have a little dirt by the letters but there are no stains on the obv, so I’m trying a wet Q-tip to remove some of the dirt. I’ll post this one later this evening ( Should I post it here or under a new post ? ).
And Dick
The acetone that I’m using I picked up at the hardware store and it’s pure acetone.
Drew
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:32 pm |
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Drew,
A little bit of gunk left is still ok.
Show a before and after photo.
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D42Advanced Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:58 pm |
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This is another 1941
This one had dirt around the date and lettering I almost missed it
But I spotted the top of the B in Liberty; I started removing the dirt with a Q-tip
with a little bar soap on it. Here’s what it looks like so far, I still have a way to go
The hard part will be removing the dirt from the inside of the O, D and E
I don’t know which die it is ( die 1 or die 2 ).
Drew
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:47 pm |
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WTG! D42.
Dick
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:52 pm |
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The newest pictures are that of Die # 001. Congrats as that one is a little tougher to locate. Very cool.
By the way...you need to buy yourself some Goo-Gone. You can soak your coins in that forever, and it will help loosen up all the gunk between the letters. You can then use a Q-Tip or a soft toothbrush to clean it some more....just don't scrub too hard. I have used Goo-Gone for years and it has always worked wonderfully.
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