Canadian cents

Dick · Expert Member

Finally!!!
Maryjf, THANK YOU!!!
I have been trying for an hour to reply to your post, but I keep getting the "debugging" info, and since I have lost several posts, I copy my post, and then "send". Yes, I would like to have the cent; and Yes, I have your package ready to go. I need your address, and my daughter to come by. That way I can mail both yours, and ED's coins. Not driving anymore is the, well you get the idea! We were lucky, in that I have a set of quarter rolls, for the state series, and had a ready access to your coins! Pm me with your address, and It will be in the mail.
Dick

eagames · Expert Member

Dick,

Neat looks like you got a 25!

I started filling the Canada set in the 70s. I lived in Seattle then so it was easy to find them in change. Now I'm just adding the newer ones.

Set starts 1920:

I still find these in US rolls, just found a 1942.

Robert · Senior Member

Nice collection you have there. I have an old Whitman wheat cent album and a Jefferson nickel one, both of which I have dedicated to "found in circulation". I found some slightly better dates in change including a 38D Jefferson and a war nickel.

Dick, I get the "debugging" message when I post too. I just hit the "refresh" button, then the "retry" button in the window that pops up, and everything seems to work just fine.

Dick · Expert Member

Robert, that is what I have been doing, but I have lost a few posts, and have had to type the whole thing all over again, so to be on the safe side, I copy the text into my browser, and then send it.
Ed, it looks like it will be monday, before youdr coins will be posted. My daughter hit some debris, and was inside the lanes, and couldn't dodge to either side. Took out three tires, but she is okay. She had the tires replaced, and the damage to the steering, or something, repaired last night. She went to work this morning.
Mary, the same for your coins. They are packaged, and need your address, which I'll check the PM to see if it is there, and then will post, along with ED's. I included a gift. If you like it, let me know. I have some more of them, but I consider them just "melt value".
Let me know.
Dick

MaryJF · Advanced Member

Dick - just read your post. If you saw my name as being here, it was wrong. LOL I just got back from celebrating my baby brother's 50th with his kids and other family members. Whoops.. forgot to turn off the computer before I left.

I got the "debug" message also. I just refreshed it, and all was well.

Will get that coin out to you on Monday.. now, hmm.. where DID I put it. Don't worry, Dick. I have it. I didn't know it was a key date when I found it, so I just put it back in the Canadian bag. Now I have to look through them to find it. Thanks a lot. There's a few hundred of them. But it's still yours. I'm glad it's going to somebody like you. If you didn't speak up, and I hadn't decided to read the Canadian post (and I have no idea why I did that - must be fate), it would have been sitting in that bag forever.

I'll PM my address, and thank you for the "D" quarters. What a relief. Now I can stop looking for them.

Gotta run for now. Back to the partying.

Dick · Expert Member

Mary, I don't think it wqwas here, as this thread is new.
I started it to see if I could share some info, and at the samr time give some of our Northern Neighbors a chance to share their finds, and maybe learn something from them. You are invited, if you had any doubts. We are here to serve!
You said on another post that yoyu read where I was short those two dates, and said youi found one in a roll of lincolns. You asked if I wanted it, and if so, you would trade it for three "D" Ark,. quarters. You didn't have to ask twice! I just happened to have a set of state series rolls, and decided you were the one to get part of them!tthat is where I think you got "tied in" here. No matter. When you decide what you are going to so with that "bag of Canadians", give me a hollar and we can sit down to some good old "horse-trading"! That is if you intend to get rid of them. " I got first dibs"!
Dick

KurtS · Senior Member

On the subject of Canadian cents, I thought I would post this interesting coin here. I found this at a dealer, where the cause was marked as "grease filled die". I can't say for certain, but I found it intriguing:

Something must have happened to the collar. In places you can see denticles imprinted on the outside edge.

eagames · Expert Member

I'm not sure but it looks like it might have been dipped in acid. If it was it might be also a bit under weight.

The acid might have made the rim look like that because it attacked the denticles.

I'd question being struck through since it effects the rims (which are not struck) and the obverse plus the reverse.

See what others think. Wink

Here's how the surface of an acid dipped cent looks next to a normal cent:

KurtS · Senior Member

An interesting idea on the acid! Some things to note on the obverse are how the denticles and lettering are sharper on the left, becoming more blurred to the right. I think the flow of metal was approx. 9:30 to 3:30; the ripples in the coin are perpedicular to this direction. While I haven't yet weighed the coin, here's my guess: I suspect the dies were slightly misaligned, with grease on the dies. The 9:30 position struck (slightly) first, creating better detail while moving the grease to the right. This grease would not compress, and worked against the metal flow, producing ripples and less detail as grease pressure built to the right. Perhaps the added pressure may have interfered with the collar--I'm not certain, but I do see impressions of the denticles on the edge of the coin.

Whatever the cause, it's an intriguing coin! Very Happy

Dick · Expert Member

KurtS, my imprression was Heat treatment! I have seen coins like that that have been "worked over with a "rose-bud'. It will sure do a number on them!
Dick

eagames · Expert Member

There's 3 things that come to mind:

Acid
Blow torch
Spooning (slowly beat the coin with a rounded tool)

On this one I still think acid but a torch like Dick said might look similar.

Lets see if Coop is around, on his page he has some info and pics of coins like that.

KurtS · Senior Member

Dick · Expert Member

KurtS, I'll be waiting. I would like to know for sure what caused the condition. I have nver seen one in hand, so my knowledge is very limited. I enjoy lerning, even tho ot takes a little more time for oit to sinkin, in some cases.

The reson I thought it mighr be heat, is that my S/son has one with similar effects, but it is only on the outer perimiter of the coin.
Dick

KurtS · Senior Member

Dick, yeah--I'm curious too! I try to approach these mystery coins with a bit of scientific skepticism to eliminate what can't happen. As a kid, I used to put coins under torches and bunsen burners to see the effects. Laughing

Presently I don't have any conclusive causes. So rather than speculate any further on this oddity, I'll shelve it until I see something similar. A similar process should produce a similar result. It really has a cool micro-surface that looks different in hand than what my macro photos exaggerate.