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JRoccoVeteran Member
Posts: 418 Joined: 08 Oct 2004
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:00 pm |
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Hey Chuck,
How are you?
Thanks for the advice and you are, as usual, 100% correct. I shoot with a Reveal bulb and an OTT bulb. How you were able to know that is way over my head, but you are right.
I like the OTT light, but only have one lamp so I usually place a second lamp with a Reveal bulb as backup for extra lighting. I guess I should break down and get a second OTT lamp.
Thanks for the tip Chuck.
Best,
John
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JRoccoVeteran Member
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:26 pm |
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Hey. I forgot about this thread.
The seller of this piece described this as an original 1590 Pope Sixtus V medal. I do not think it is an original, but instead a 19th century restrike. It is dated 1590 (AN VI) and is a really nice high relief piece.
The obverse shows Pope Sixtus V in high relief while the reverse shows a beautiful rendition of The two horses of the Quirinal, with the fountain between. Let me give a real quick explanation.
The Quirinale hill used to be called Montecavallo (Horse Hill) due to the presence of the large marble statues of the Dioscuri twins and their horses. The twins are the great horseman Castor and the formidable boxer Pollux, sons of Leda and Zeus and brothers of Helen of Troy.
This one just found a long time home.
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GarryNExpert Member
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:11 am |
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The medal from the August 24 post with the room scene is also inscribed to Pius IX. If I could get an example of that one that would be awesome.
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KurtSSenior Member
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:27 am |
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I particularly like how the loose sculptural quality of the bust was transferred to the die and ultimately the medal. I'll guess this medal was made at a later date than Sixtus V, but it shows a high degree of skill by whatever process was used.
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JRoccoVeteran Member
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:18 pm |
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I agree Kurt.
Hey Garry-here is the obverse of the medal you mentioned.
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GarryNExpert Member
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:44 am |
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All I can say John, is wow! I think that covers it...
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:12 am |
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:14 pm |
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John, I know nothng of medals, and would be the last to bring up a question, but in the "rendition' of the two horses, and the two boys?, I seem to have trouble agreeing with the story. Tthe one on the left with the stud, does not appear to be a boy, and the one o the right with the mare, is definitely a boy, but with breasts??? Engraving "typo"???
Dick
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:24 pm |
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cnladueVeteran Member
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:31 pm |
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those are the most beautifull coins i have ever seen!
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JRoccoVeteran Member
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:05 pm |
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He was working out his pecs before he modeled for the medal Dick  |
HaHaHa...too funny Bob.
Hey Dick,
I am sure that the artists were a little free to be well...artistic and hence this is their depiction I guess.
Here is what the scene looked like back in 1590.
Then..let me quote this:
"Domenico Fontana had the statutes restored and dragged to the center of the piazza; he then turned them to the right and placed his fountain right below them. In 1782, Pope Pio VI Braschi decided to refurbish the piazza. The statues were separated, turned around one more time to form a 90 degree angle. One of the two obelisks that belonged to Emperor Cesare Augusto's mausoleum was erected between the statues. The old fountain was removed and was never seen again."
Leading to a picture of the statue in the Plaza today...
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JRoccoVeteran Member
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:11 pm |
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Here is one that I just picked up- This one a very rare piece in silver.
This is dated 1572 and shows Gregory XIII on the obverse and the
reverse shows a depiction of the Massacre of the Huguenots.
It measures 9 on the Mionnet scale. It is a silver piece just about the size of a half dollar.
I see a reference in the Spink catalogue to a silver piece that is mounted.
Spink # 699
I love this stuff.
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JRoccoVeteran Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:59 pm |
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Can't believe it has been over a half year since I have been here. Let me kick this one back up with a medal I cherish.
Years ago I owned this variety and after years of searching I once again found her.
This one will stay with me for a while.
Let me enter a brief description of this piece.
This bronze medal is huge. It measures 82 mm in diameter and 8-9 mm in thickness.
This is the medal referred to earlier in this thread.
"Consecration of the Restored Basilica of Saint Paul Outside the Walls
Obverse: Bust of Pius IX facing left, wearing zucchetto, mozzetta, and decorative stole. Around, PIVS IX PONT · MAX ·. Below, I · BIANCHI F ·.
Reverse: Interior view of the Basilica of Saint Paul Outside the Walls, looking down the central nave towards the apse. Around the border, PIVS · IX · P · M · BASILICAM · PAVLI · APOST · AB · INCENDIO · REFECTAM · SOLEMNI · RITV · CONSECRAVIT · IV · ID · DEC · MDCCCLIV. In exergue, AL · POLETTI · ARCH · INV ·. At the base of the floor, I · BIANCHI · FECIT ·.
Medal issued to commemorate the consecration of the Basilica of Saint Paul by Pius IX in 1854 and was created by Giuseppe Bianchi. The reverse of the medal features a stunning three-dimensional engraving of the central nave of the reconstructed basilica. The architect of the reconstruction, Luigi Poletti, is mentioned on the reverse in the exergue inscription. The date of the consecration (December 10, 1854) is provided on the reverse using the Julian calendar (IV · ID · DEC · MDCCCLIV). The reverse inscription can be translated as "Basilica of the Apostle Paul, from the Fire to Solemnity by the Ceremony of Consecration".
Historical Background: The Basilica of St. Paul Outside the Walls was nearly completely destroyed by a fire on July 15, 1823. It is believed that the fire was caused by a negligent workman repairing the lead on the basilica's roof. The reconstruction was a major event, with various countries contributing. The basilica reopened in 1840, but was not fully completed until 1931 when the central bronze doors were installed. The transept was consecrated during the 1840 reopening by the current pontiff, Gregory XVI. The basilica as a whole was not consecrated until December 10, 1854 by Pius IX. The reconstruction work was begun under Pasquale Belli and completed under Luigi Poletti. Unfortunately, during the reconstruction, much of the original basilica and frescoes were lost. "
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daggitSenior Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:10 pm |
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OMG Beautiful medal, and great pics I feel like I could walk right in.
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:36 pm |
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Sandra, I have seen these pictures, before, and I am humbled, at the quality, and clarity, of them! I could not believe such craftmanship could be transferred to a coin, if I hadn't seen it!
Yes, one could "just walk right on in", and never know that you had to "shrink yourself to be able"!
Dick
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