1983 Copper (95%) error

Ryedale · New Member

Have any of you heard of or seen, a 1983 Lincoln Cent struck on a 95% copper planchet?
If you have any information please let me know. Feel free to email me direct with links etc. Andy
andy@ryedalecoin.com

Steven · Expert Member

Try this link........

http://www.numismaticnews.net/Default.aspx?tabid=459&articleid=3209&articlemid=1391#1391Articles

fiddle-fart · Veteran Member

I read the article and it talked about the switching of dies, planchets etc.
my silly question is Embarassed

how does one know when the dies changes and what are the markers used for?

any help is appreciated Very Happy

Mike

coop · Expert Member

Dies are created to make coins. Coins come from dies in different die state/ or sometimes called stages. A die state may range from EDS, MDS, LDS or VLDS. The dies progressively wear through the die die states. Some publications list coins in states and stages. Maybe something happened to the dies (cracks/chips/breaks/clashes/gouges/or even replacing the reverse die.) These stages depends on what happened to the die when in use. What happened, cleanings from clashes, damage to the die or something else I've forgotten to mention. But because the dies are sometimes used to the max, extreme die wear, breaks that form cuds, these are just part of what a die's life is like. Just depends on the what the die endures.

Planchet materials usually don't change except for the years like 1943, 1982 when the blanks were cut from different materials. But every once in a while the wrong planchet will be struck that was not intended. Some quarters were cut from dime stock and were thinner and lighter in weight. Sometimes the wrong planchet is struck with the wrong dies.

Note the missing letters near the rims. This happens because the planchet is too small and the dies outside devices don't touch the rims. (Side point: Planchets will only fit into collars that are smaller in size. Dimes in Cents, nickels, quarters, half dollars, dollars. You would never find a quarter with a dime struck on it as it would fit into the mechanism. Probably faked.)
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/ERRORS_Planchet_Errors_Double_Struck_Broadstruck.jpg
So only smaller planchets would happen to find there way into the larger chambers, not vise versa.
Hope this help Mike.

Oh, I forgot to welcome you also to the variety addicts chat anomous.
WELCOME!

eagames · Expert Member

Coop,

Lucky that your 6 center has a full date.
If it was shifted the other direction it might be dateless.

Smile

fiddle-fart · Veteran Member

Thanks for all the help!!!

Maybe I put the cart before the horse and got toooooo excited when I seen something thats not normally there.
So with that in mind ( hollow sound)(echo)

Is there any books that can help me learn about all the ins and outs in collecting.
like duh
maybe I oughtta check out this sites store Idea

any other words of wisdom is always and really appreciated

Thanks
Mike

Dick · Expert Member

Mike, there are many books. amont them is the book weitten by out friend, and site owner, Charles Daughtry NLG. Check the store, and see if he is ready to sell them again. he recently made a move to Fla. and may finally be getting back to normal, again. The title is: Looking Through Lincoln Cents, A chronology of a Series. 2nd. ED. It is worth it's weight on gold!
Dick

coop · Expert Member

The forum is probably the best source of information. It is a melting of the minds of things found/explained/questioned/shared information and the best part its there for the reading and study. If your read all the posts on the forum, you'd be up to snuff on about everything that we've found/questioned/wanted to learn/suggestions/tips/how to's and it there for the reading. Try asking a book a question? Here you can ask and usually new ones bring up new questions that we enjoy sharing what we have learned. Remember to the search feature on the site for varieties and search also for topics we've discussed here. Keep the search very simple and you will find what you are looking for.

carlb · Advanced Member

It's true that this or any coin web site can be used for more explicit answers to a question such as the questions here. But I've found that the Looking Through Lincoln's book comes in handy when just looking throuhgh coins, talking to people or just wanting some fast info. Since I turn off my computer when not in use, in order for me to get an answer I would have to boot up this thing, wait for ever for that, then go to the internet, then go to this web site and spend a few minutes trying to find the piece of paper with my password (old with poor memory). By this time I've forgotten what I wanted.
Therefore I have edition one and two, one upstairs and one downstairs.

eagames · Expert Member

Mint error news has a lot of info about these and others as well.
And it's online. Smile

http://minterrornews.com/

See this issue about the zincolns on copper planchets:

http://minterrornews.com/issue12.pdf

GarryN · Expert Member

This is definitely the best site on Lincolns bar none. www.lincolncent.com is also a great site to pick up some interesting varieties of Lincolns. Others have had success in other denominations. www.vamworld.com has up to date pics and descriptions of virtually every Morgan and Peace Dollar variety, much more up to date than the VAM encyclopedia. Also an active forum there. Some of the collectors there are in contact with Leroy Van Allen of VAM fame. The site also has a link there to VAM Trading Post. It is a site where collectors can trade Morgan and Peace Dollars. You have to join that separately. All of it is free access.

Eagle Eye Rare Coins has an active discussion forum and is collecting photos of all varieties of Flying Eagles and Indian Cents. www.indiancent.com.