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RhubarbSenior Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:59 pm |
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The 9 has the line around it. The D has the marking's to the west and north. I think the extra line inside the R and the U may be it. There are no extra markings from to verify if it is or isn't the 1935P-1DO-001 View the pictures and let me know.
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:10 am |
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That might be it. I checked the 7 circulated examples I have, and even well worn, the doubling is visible on the motto. If you are able to get the gunk out of the R in TRUST, and see the line in there, that should make a positive ID.
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:53 pm |
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First I thought it was the same as the other one you posted but then I wasn't sure, it's a different coin right?
http://www.coppercoins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4385
What you see on the west of D might be master die doubling that shows up on many cents from that timeframe.
The doubling inside the RU should be sharp in the protected area so if you can get the goo out that should show. Try putting it in hot water then while it's still warm nudge the goo with a thorn.
The other thing to compare is that second T of trust. It should be much wider than the first T.
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RhubarbSenior Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:59 pm |
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Here is the picture of the RU. Let me know.
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:10 pm |
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I'm thinking it might be it.
The NE inside of the U looks right.
The upper center doubling inside of the R looks a bit weak but might be it.
Can you post the entire TRUST?
(That would show the wide last T)
It might also show on the S.
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:18 pm |
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The reason this variety is hard to verify with heavy wear is the doubling on them can look very similar to strike doubled ones.
Here's what I mean, look at the doubling on the date, looks like the doubled die but it's strike doubling.
Same coin, the inside of the U looks a lot like the doubled die but it's strike doubling.
If that coin was circulated for 70 years it would be tough to see it was just a strike double.
This is the real doubled die, my pics are bad but it's the real one.
Notice that last T of trust is very wide:
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:33 pm |
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ED, if the one under the scope loodes like that, I'd have it slabbed! And I don't "slab" coins!
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RhubarbSenior Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:21 pm |
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Here is the T Ed.
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GabeSenior Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:42 pm |
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At first I wanted to say " No way that is 1DO-001", but after comparing it to the sample on the site, I'm now a bit more confident that this could be 1DO-001.
It is hard to tell from the pictures, but there are characteristics of the doubling in your pictures similar to 1do-001.. but at the same time others that should be in the variety and don't seem to be in yours.
Can you get a picture of the S in the word TRUST?
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:50 pm |
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RhubarbSenior Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:17 pm |
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Thank's guys for the replys. I didn't know for sure. Here are 2 more pictures to compare.
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:21 pm |
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Well I hate to play Devil's advicate. But I feel it isn't a DDO. The reason is that if you look at the example on the image of the 001 that the spread seems to see at the same distance on the letters. On David's coin I see inconsistancies in the spread. To me it looks like machine doubling. On Ed's machine doubled example, not the U in the center of the U. It looks distorted and not spread like a doubled die should look. On his example of the 001 you see the correct spread. So unless I'm loosing it, I'm not thinking this a doubled die. Sorry I just don't see it. Maybe I'm wrong though. I have been wrong before?
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:30 pm |
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Coop,
I know what you mean.
I started doubting it but ended up thinking it is.
I looked at Wexlers old book since it shows a very worn example and all you can see is the slight spread remaining on U as the higher relief blended away but it still showed on the S.
I'm still uncertain but thought it might be from wear making things blend but still the S seems questionable. I can imagine it blending away but I was not sure it's wide enough horizontaly to match the spread on the DDO.
Maybe Bob can give a guess
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:35 pm |
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I am uncertain also. I can certainly have a look...free of charge, if you wish. As I mentioned, I have 7 circulated examples, so I have many to compare it with if necessary.
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RhubarbSenior Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:01 pm |
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I want to thank you all for your advice and taking the time using your resources to compare my coin to. I just wish I could find something that is more obvious. I have to disect just about every coin to find something. Bob, I will send the coin to you. Will you PM me your address? Thank's again everyone. You guy's are the best.
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