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rollmeupabeVeteran Member
Posts: 424 Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Location: Plymouth, Massachusetts
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:04 pm |
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I always check out the new varieties added to the site and today I saw 1970S-1DO-019 was added.
My question is how do we know that is a DDO and not just another mark on the coin? It seems to be so minor. What type of DDO would this be? Class III design hub doubling?
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:09 pm |
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I put it there, and examined the coin. This is but one of a group of coins that ended up with a piece f a cross bar of a 7 above the digit on 1970 and 1971 cents. For some reason it only happened those two years.
How do I know it's not just a 'mark' on the coin? Because it's raised. Giving you that one, how do I know it's not just a mark on the die? Because it's softened with die wear, it's horizontal and just above the digit in the date like other dies that have the same anomaly PLUS a bar below the L of LIBERTY to match.
This coin was somewhat brown, a little worn, and the die was a little worn too. It was difficult to photograph, but it was there.
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rollmeupabeVeteran Member
Posts: 424 Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Location: Plymouth, Massachusetts
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:27 pm |
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I am sure I would have missed that one or dismissed it. Thanks for the explanation.
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eagamesExpert Member
Posts: 3013 Joined: 15 Nov 2005
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:11 pm |
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Like Bob said there are some that have the bar above 7 plus the bar below the L. In John Wexlers old book he lists one like that as MH-2-O-VII and says they can be from all 3 mints.
The pic has the bar above 7 plus the bar below the L and the bar below the L looks like a strong well formed tear shape with the point towards the rim and the drop inward.
I found a 70-P with the same sort of tear shaped bar below the L but nothing shows above the 7, maybe it got polished away. Nice spread and fairly strong.
I'm sure there's dozens of minor 1970 DDO cents.
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:17 pm |
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Hi Ed,
Look again...that weren't Bob who said that.
Anywho...I do agree that there are a number of doubled dies for 1970 cents. I think any small part of it may have to do with the small/large date thing, but that's not fact - just conjecture.
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:06 pm |
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Sorry Chuck, my mind assumed it was Bob.
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