1894 IHC Snow-1 1894/1894

KurtS · Senior Member

I thought I'd share a shot of a coin I found at the show this week.
This IHC variety has the most dramatic repunched date of the whole series.
This one's going to a collector friend in Australia who I bought a group of IHCs at the show. Very Happy

Dick · Expert Member

Good show, Kurt! There is going to be one very happy Aussie, "down Under".
Dick

KurtS · Senior Member

Yes--In addition to this coin, I carefully picked 15 other IHCs (most undergraded by the dealers). I think it will really flesh out his collection. Very Happy

Btw--I did find an 1857 FE obverse of '56, but I didn't have $130 on hand to buy it. I'd say it was XF45-AU50. So I explained to the dealer what it was...I never know if dealers believe me. Laughing

No other luck with US RPDs, but I found a few RPDs from Sweden, and a DDO from Norway. Oh and that LMC proof. Good show!
Very Happy

eagames · Expert Member

Seems like IHC varieties are easier to find than Lincolns.
Might be that they had lower mintage and less dies so if a few dies were varieties they have less normal ones to hide among. Better odds at finding one.

I mean those close AM 92 cent's are hidden among billions of normal ones! It takes many years of IHC mintages (or all of them) to match the mintage of one year of modern lincolns. Smile

KurtS · Senior Member

Ed, you could be right! Very Happy

Another thought I had is that most existing IHCs are now pooled within the collector/dealer community so collector focus is greater than LMCs that are still circulating in great numbers. Confused

I certainly would never find those scarce close AM proofs if those were business strikes of that small die run.

With a total 1894 run of 16.75M, I'll guess there were 55-83 obverse dies using 200-300K strikes per die (I don't have Snow's estimate for this year). With 1:55 odds, I bet these were once easy to spot during circulation in the 1890s. Oh, what I would give for a $50 bag of IHCs from that era! Laughing

Dick · Expert Member

Kurt, that would be a gold mine!
Speaking of "gold mines", especially the "salted ones", I have just decided that "my IHC seller", just lost his! The two rolls that I just got, are as trashy as any coin I have ever seen! The problem is that I can't return them because they have been opened. How else am I, (or anyone else), going to see if they are junk, or worth keeping. I don't think it is legal to mention names, or I would give the "seller, aka "rip-off artist", a LOT of advertisement, on every forum I know of, including Canadian forums! I'm not pissed, or even perturbed. I am mad as the devil that anyone could sell crap like these two rolls, and actually sleep at night! One thing for sure, He will get the same feedback as the "seller", in gilbert, AZ, for the same reason. A word to the wise: Don't but any "unsearched, tightly wrapped wheats, or IHC! I won't say the name, but the only true thing I can sayis, They are very tightly wrapped, PERIOD!
Now for something more in keeping with our enjoyment. Kurt, do you know what the difference is between a plain, and "fancy5" is, on the 1865 IHC? (thart was the only one that wasn't post-1900). Thanks,
Dick

KurtS · Senior Member

Dick, the "plain 5" looks like this (the other has a more curved top).
All the interesting IHCs varieties are plain 5, except the DDR.

Dick · Expert Member

Kurt, maybe you can say what this is: The letters, and numbers all look like they have been very carefully rounded ouer, very uniformly, and the coins are very "brassy"-looking. I have two of them. this is one, and I'll post the otherm in an edit.

The other coin is in esscence, the same, except in size. the coins have been cleaned,,and looks like some "forming", or contouring done. I think those marks in the 9&0, are crud.

The pictires show a lot od un-even surface, but in hand, they are very smooth.

Dick

KurtS · Senior Member

Dick, yikes--those sure look worked over with some tool to remove the coin of "unsightly dirt"--and everything else on the surface. Brassy is not good. Rolling Eyes

Just look at the 0 with that circular groove--obviously a sharp tool was used there. I hate seeing this stuff passed off to collectors. Mad

GarryN · Expert Member

Did you cherrypick the 1894 Kurt?

KurtS · Senior Member

Garry, yes I did! Very Happy

GarryN · Expert Member

My God, someone was asleep at the switch there. Thats the easiest overdate to see in any condition. I was on the vanlink website over the weekend and someone claimed to have cherrypicked a late die state 1888-O Scarface. Thats a high four figure coin in uncirculated. This is about the equivalent type of cherrypick in Indian Cents. Way to go. Laughing

KurtS · Senior Member

Yeah--found in a dealer's album at a show. I've also found several others, including the 1897 "1 in neck" in VF30 and the 1887 Snow-1 DDO too. Laughing

GarryN · Expert Member

Just like everything else we find and talk about on this forum, Its nice when these kinds of coins can be found and preserved by people who appreciate them!

Dick · Expert Member

Kurt, someone went to a lot of trouble to make the devices look "Ornate". Why< I don't know. I have about five, or six of then. most are like the last one shown.. I am looking for a source for IHC rolls. Any suggestions? thanks, By the way, I am not envious of the greaat finds you, and others are getting, but I am very happy for you , and yopur sharing. It goes to show, there are nice ones out there, and not necessarily in " very tight weapped bank rolls"!
Dick