1906 Canadian nickel fake?

[mojaveblue]

I hope Chuck doesn't mind, this post doesn't follow world copper.

I came accross this nickel with another 1910 and a few other canadian silver coins at a very good price for the silver.
The dates on the nickels added more attraction.
What I didn't notice was the 1906 nickel had a gold tint and a clasp loop for jewelry purposes.
It is interesting that seen with naked eye the 1906 looks to be in VF or EF condition which would give it nice value. But magnified, it looks a lot like a FE cent of mine which at first was hailed to be a sand casting forgery, but BJ Neff examined and said otherwise.

Now the good part, (or bad), I flip it over to look at the reverse.
It's oriented like a US coin. It is 180 degrees rotated versus the 1910 nickel, almost exactly. So Im thinking wow! Then Im thinking oh its a fake.

Dick, if you have a thought Id appreciate it and if anyone else has any thoughts.

Phil

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[smed]

The 1906 Canadian 5 cent coin (or fish scale, but not 'nickel') was minted with coin turn. It changed the next year (or was it 1908? I just looked it up and forgot already...), so the 1910 should have medal turn.

It looks like a lot of coin jewelry, polished within an inch of its life.

[mojaveblue]

Thanks,
Ive got a new resource book on Canadian coins, but didnt see a reference to that orientation change. Darn, but I thought 180 degree rotation was too good to be true.
And good point on "5 cent" vrs "nickel", I'll pick up the nomenclature as I go along.
Interesting it is so small when the canadian cents of the time were so large, like the British cents.

[Dick]

Phil, I can't tell you anything about your coin, as I only work with the large cent, (1859N9 in particular).
But, I know the author of several books on Canadian coinage, who can answer all your questions:

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Jim Haxby.
The site is new, and is growing very rapidly. maybe I'll see you there.
Dick

[mojaveblue]

Thanks Dick,

You're the Best.

[coop]

I know nothing about Canadian Nickels, but one thing that stands out to me is the texture. It looks like a cast coin?

[mojaveblue]

Yes, I agree, but the surface also looks like a Flying Eagle cent of mine which was given a thumbs up for authenticity.
I had thought it was a good score for the price, it looked good without magnification. Now I don't think it could be graded better than Good or VG highest, so its probably not worth considering.
I wouldn't want to re-list it without making sure it is fully described in the ad.
Bet near bullion value.

Thanks, all.

[smed]

If it wasn't for those spots on it (what are they?? it's not going to hurt the value to try and get rid of them...) it would probably sell for $10-15 on feebay as a piece of coin jewelry.

As is, I'd say $5-8.

If you don't mind saying, what do you have in it?

[mojaveblue]

No, I don't mind, interested to know from others if I am doing well in my bullion search, as well as finding good items others don't care to research.
I got the 1906, 1910 Canadian 5 cent coins, with a 1965 canadian dime, and 1943 Canadian quarter for $10 including shipping.
At first, I only bid the first auction of the 5 cent coins and the dime for $5.99, then rembered to look at her other items.
I checked in a Ca coin book which listed the values a bit higher than the auction price, the books usually seem a bit high, but thinking about the silver also, so.
And I was the sole bidder.
The spots are removable I think, I was able to rub some off without much trouble. Thought ink at first, but not exactly.