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wavysteps2003Expert Member
Posts: 1344 Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 8:36 am |
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Have any of you tried to get into the CONECA coin search for varities lately? It does not seem to be working even with their new link. Also, for those interested, the ERROR SCOPE, which is now two issues behind, is soon to be on the street according to Ken Potter.
Am I the only one that feels that CONECA, as an orginization, is having some sort of problems?
You all have a good one
Wavysteps
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pennyhoundVeteran Member
Posts: 414 Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:55 pm |
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naaa ... thy have been sending out email/s about getting it fixed, but still aren't there yet ... it seems.
Did you get that bucket load of emails also?
LOL ... happy hunting.
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
Posts: 1344 Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 5:31 am |
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That seemed to be another glitch with CONECA. Got about thirty Emails in a couple of days then they stopped.
On another note, added a new doubled die to Billy Crawford's files. 2004, 1c, CDDO-015, a minor doubled die with notching on the upper left arm of the Y in LIBERTY, extra thickness in RTY of LIBERTY and the date. I will be sending it to Chuck for his his possible entry into Copper Coins. Seems that there are a bunch of these guys out there, doubled dies that is and I believe that 2004 will go down in history as the year of the doubled dies like 2003 went down for the wavy steps.
Happy hunting to you all out there.
WAVYSTEPS2003
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pennyhoundVeteran Member
Posts: 414 Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:11 am |
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wavysteps2003,
Good luck with it ... but keep in mind also ... that some are just to minor to list, thus this is why CONECA and other's have not listed alot of them, and no, can't give you any examples right off the top of my head ... but I can say this (it's only my opinion & opinion/s are like 'a hole/s', everybodies got one ... lol) some of the one/s being listed by some so called specialist/s are just to minor to list or have any value, but then again ... to each their own.
If you look ... alot of those so-called "wavy steps" from 2003 on thru present ... are being passed up, even by inexperienced collect/s ... on E-Bay ... now for being to minor. (I'm sure you have come across a few of those yourself) ... just not my cup of tea, so to say.
But then again ... (I have to say it again) ... to each their own.
Have a good day and happy hunting.
Any way, you might be able to post a picture of that new one, for the rest of us to see?
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
Posts: 1344 Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 8:08 am |
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You are definitely right about minor doubled dies and I do believe that Billy Crawford is fair on his analysis of this type errror. A couple of my coins that I have asked him to look at were to minor for his listings. He is not as strict as CONECA (Mr. Wiles) or as liberal as James Wexler, more down the middle of the road.
Wavy steps are like the RPMs, there are a lot of them around and they go from very minor (like the ones that have been recently listed on Ebay) to extremely strong. As of yet, I do not think that the hobby has embraced this form of a doubled die and if they do, only time will tell if they ever become popular.
I will forward some pictures of 2004, 1c, CDDO-015 to Chuck so that he can post them if he will.
Wavy Steps 2003
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pennyhoundVeteran Member
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:45 pm |
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He will be glad too ... if he's to bussy, send to Bob ... and even to me if ya want ... or just post on the forums ...
Many folk/s are here for people like yourself and would be glad to ... we all one big happy family here.
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:28 pm |
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My personal take on the 'wavy steps' varieties is that they will indeed take off as a collectible variety. The more major ones are real cool to look at, and a little perplexing to diagnose, but nice anyway. I found my very first wavy step a week or so ago,...a 1994D. Billy has one listed, but this one is different. It is on coppercoins as 1994D-1DR-001. I believe a lot of folks have just plain overlooked the variety, and once people see the diverse collections of them out there, they will start searching for them more.
I will be happy to help anyone with pics should they so desire. Email me and we'll work something out.
I am taking a well earned vacation from the 1st to the 8th of June, and will not be accepting attributions. I will be able to check email occasionally, so write if you need to.
_________________ Bob Piazza
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
Posts: 1344 Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 8:22 pm |
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Hi Bob - Took a look at the 1994-D wavy step and it is different, at least I think it is, from the three that I have in my files. Then again it is hard to say without any die markers.
Hopefully, by mid year, I will have the majority of my files photographed and analyzed so you all may take a look at them. Right now, I have completed from 1987 to 1999 and I sent a disc to Chuck with those wavy steps. At present, I am tackeling 2003 and have over forty different dies for that date.
May I make a suggestion to all that may collect this type of doubled die. There are three different shifts on wavy steps; east, west and no shift. Indicate the shift when you put your wavy step up; this will help you when you find a new one and compare it to what you have. Generally speaking the no shift is the most common, followed by the west shift, then the east. However, that changes in the year 2003 when the east shift becomes the most common.
The banner years for wavy steps seem to be 2003, 1999, 1995, 1994 and 1993 with the strongest in 1995 and 1999 so far. Of course the Philly mint leads in this doubled die, but there is more than a few from Denver also. I would be particularly interested if anyone found one from San Fransisco mint for I believe there are some, they just have not been found.
The wavy steps are a new frontier and have the potential of gaining popularity as did the RPMs. There are a lot out there waiting to be discovered and some of them are monsters, LOL.
Just one more thing. The first wavy step was from 1994, the 2003 wavy step was the first one to be published about and the next was the one that I won from Ebay, a 1999 that is listed as 1999P-1DR-002 in copper coins.
I am of course always available if anyone has any questions that I might be able to answer on this type doubled die.
Wavysteps2003
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pennyhoundVeteran Member
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 1:37 am |
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wavysteps2003
I'll keep that in mind and very good points ... (both of yas)
Have a well deservered brake and pleasing vacation there Bob.
Happy Hunting
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tabbMember
Posts: 35 Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Location: Washington
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:46 am |
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I dunno, but the whole CONECA site issue has been bugging me too~ I check rpms and doubles for other denominations too and unfortunately no one out there has a site like COPPERCOINS!
Oh, and now I'll jump on looking at these bank wrapped 04 rolls I have!
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lucky2Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 2:16 pm |
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CONECA has always needed a center post. A place for members to gather. From my stand point they have probably 10 center posts and nobody knows where to go for anything. It has not changed for many years and with the size and diversity of it and the members it probably never will.~lucky2
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:35 pm |
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Wavysteps....Excellent suggestions, and I will use every one of them while searching and attributing wavy step varieties. As far as markers go for my coin...there were none that I could find. I will go back and look again though, because I agree that any marker info would help differentiate this die from others. I will also edit the die info on my coin and future coins to show the direction of the shift. I believe Chuck is already doing it that way on some of his attributions. Once again...thanks for all the info!
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