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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:14 pm Reply with quote

Dick, The link to Stanton Books is hear and they still show a few volumn sixes available (also have 1 & 2).
http://www.stantonbooks.com/books_small_cents.htm

The link to Telesphere Numismatics has the better price plus more than books.
http://www.telesphere.com/books/cents.html

For those who use PayPal, both sites accept. Steve
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:15 pm Reply with quote

thank you, Steven, I didn't know if it was you, or (Ithink his name is Steve), Copper-Crazy. Any way I'll check it out.
A bit later: I checked it out, anbd was I surprised! That place has everything I'm looking for!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:04 am Reply with quote

Copper_Crazy

Can I get you to look up another RPD. This is repunched a bit to the south and east.
Thanks for your help.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:39 pm Reply with quote

Steven,

There is no attribution guide for the 1890's that I know of (there may be a 1st edition out there somewhere but I can't tell you more). Rick Snow is just finishing the Attribution Guide 1870-1889 and it is going to press soon. I have an 1892 with a boldly MPD that I can't find eaither. All I can suggest that you check the following links:

http://www.fly-inclub.org/talk/index.php

http://www.noblecoins.org/ihfevar.html

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:18 pm Reply with quote

I hope I don't sound too ignorant with this question, but I am not an Indian Head guy (yet at least). Were these numbers in the date hand punched individually into the dies like earlier 19th century coinage? Or was the entire date punched as a single block of #'s? In other words for this to be a re-punched date as described the entire date (4 #'s) would have had to be punched as a single punch including all 4 numbers.
Take these CBH's for example- each number, letter, star etc was hand punched (sometimes with large #'s/different #'s etc)and this is what led to wild variations or varieties of everything-take these 2 examples of the same year same denomination coin. Am I making sense with this question?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:31 pm Reply with quote

John, Don't hold me to this but, yes every digit was individually punched on the date until 1909, when a full date punch was used. For the most part, all digit styles are standardized in the series (the master die had everything else on it), so there aren't digit varieties except for the closed and open 3's for 1873. Changes in the master die produced things like the 1860 pointed bust and 1864 L. Hope this helps. Steve
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The @'s look like different punches were used. The distance on the location from the rim and bust look totally different. Nice finds and great looking coins from what I can see. Nice to see some early coins for a change. Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:07 pm Reply with quote

I just happened to drop by this post and saw the 1890 photo above. Definitely a RPD, and if I would hazard a guess I'd say Snow-2 1890/1890(se). I also don't have the attribution guide for this year, but I think I see a second 0, and it seems to agree with the listing here

Regarding punches for IHCs, I think a logotype/gang punch was used for all four digits, which involved a screw press imprinting the die with the date--no individual handwork there, although digit positions relative to each other will differ. In 1909, the date was added to the hub, which is why it's always in the same position on 1909 IHCs. --I'm just going by Rick Snow's notes here.
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