Ellis Island dollar 1986-P sandcast fake

[KurtS]

Dick, I was never suggesting you would do that, nor would I--but it's only a matter of time on eBay for that place to be stuffed with fakes (more than now)

[eagames]

What's strange about this is why someone made it.

In some other countries they used Ikes and SBAs in circulation more than they were used in US. So fakes of those do exist in big numbers. No countries used these commemorative coins, the fake was too bad to fool collectors. Even if they tried to sell it they aren't a big dollar coin like the trade dollars they make. Makes me wonder why anyone would make it.

[KurtS]

Is it possible they were made to sell for domestic sale--or to tourists in the open markets? Unless one is very familiar with these coins, it might be just enough detail...just like I can be fooled by modern copies of cash coins

[Dick]

Kurt, I knew you were only kidding, and I know you well enought to not be fooled. I was only making fun iof the whole thing.
As far as someone making them for tourists, I rather doubt that, because they, (or at least the three I have in hand), are good enough to fool most people who are not used to seeing the larger dollar coins. No, I suspect someone is taking advantage of the current situation, ang making a "buck".
The flowing hair, fooled me into thinking it was the Taler, I couldn't see it well enough to tell right away, and said it was. Then when I pulled out mu genuine Taler, I saw that it couldn't be, because of the edge on the Taler. Then I got something to see with, and found it in my coins prices mag. $1400+ in G4, and it only gets better! I just got in from the siding replacement exercise, and will post some more of the other coin shots, with details.
Dick

[Dick]

Ed, like you say, some of the dollar coins are in common circulation in other countries, because they, altho they don't circulate here to any extent, they haven't been demonitized, so they are still worth the value indicated. I know that Equador, or maybe Peru, uses the Sac dollar as their official coinage. It reminds them of their culture, and is very popular. The country ordered one million of them for use there.
Dick

[Dick]

Ed, here is the pictures of the other coins. maybe it is just the flowing hair. I'm tired and not sure which is which.





Dick

[KurtS]

1796 date...and the Carson City mint? That's a new one!
So...did Lewis and Clark set up that mint, and they built the town later?

[eagames]

Wow... the rim looks as funky as the other coin.
That's about 74 years before they made CC dollars.

It's a genuine China City mint dollar

[coop]

Is that a Morgan Reverse on the 1796 Obverse? That's messed up!

[Dick]

Gentlemen, I thing the initals are "C.G". I was mistaken, too until I check with m,iore powert, and it is C.G.
Dick

[eagames]

Dick,

Check out this thread, does the fake 1986 look familiar?


http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=720045

[Dick]

The coin? with the "CG, is actually a "C' "G". I 'll bet they used Charles Gobreht Designers initials for a MM. I dion't know the time-frame, but that might be the explanation for a "CC" a few ytears ahead of time. LOL
Dick

[Dick]

The coin? with the "CG, is actually a "C' "G". I 'll bet they used Charles Gobreht Designers initials for a MM. I dion't know the time-frame, but that might be the explanation for a "CC" a few ytears ahead of time. LOL BTW, I did check it out. Pretty nice looking coins, considering.
Dick

[coop]

Dick Did you not the date on the Ellis Island coin? The real date is 1986. Your coin says 1906. LOL Another way to tell it is a fake besides the obvious.

[Dick]

Coop, when I first saw the coin, it sure looked like '06, but there was just a hint of the crossing in the 8" to indicate that the "0" was an error. After looking up the coin, it proved that the "86" was the date. My typos can show any date or word you can imagine. I have never seen my name spelled so many different ways, and it is only four letters!
Dick