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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:43 pm |
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Tony,
Check out:
http://minterrornews.com/
They have tons of information, so many things you never hear about.
To post photos use photobucket.com and get a free account. Upload your photos then post a link to it.
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Error NutMember
Posts: 61 Joined: 19 Dec 2010 Location: Missouri
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:19 pm |
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:39 pm |
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With your photo on there you can use the image things [img] [/img] and it will show in your post. Click "quote" on this reply and you can see how the link should look.
That coin looks interesting. Not acid treated.
_________________ Ed
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Error NutMember
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:17 pm |
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Thanks again Ed Things are much clearer now. I actually had the coin weighed at work. We have a machine that does specific gravity and that is how I got the four place decimal weight of 2.7277 grams. Now with the picture here, and the dimensions were .750 dia and .060 thickness any more thoughts?
Do split planchets have full strikes? I know in the die stamping process there is a shut height that is the distance in which the dies travel shut to stamp the metal. They go no farther than that shut each time it stamps the metal. On form dies the distance between the two dies is normally the metal thickness +/- a few .001. I do not know if that is how the coining process is.
[img]http://s1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa441/ErrorNut/?action=view¤t=DSCN3486.jpg[/img] If this don't work I will figure it out. Thanks
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:37 pm |
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Error NutMember
Posts: 61 Joined: 19 Dec 2010 Location: Missouri
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:47 pm |
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I also weighed a copper and a zinc copper plated. The same turned out on my scale at home 2.5 for the zinc copper plated and 3.1 for the copper. My scale weighed the planchet at 2.7 grams. No luck with the magnet.
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CoinboyJayMember
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:52 pm |
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The chances of any rarity or value is VERY minimal as stated earlier in this thread. It's all speculation at this point. My guess is a thin planchet with post mint damage, BUT if you really want to know, an expert needs to see the coin.......So, spend the $ and send it in to a third party grading service. End of discussion. It's either your ticket to the dance or worth .01
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:29 pm |
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It looks like a plain old "zincoln", to me, even tho the date indicates it preceded the zinc invasion.
I wonder if it has been "very carefully", modified, as to the date? Hmmm.
A view of the reverse might shed some light on it, too.
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:47 am |
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| It looks like a plain old "zincoln" |
The portrait is wrong for a zincoln.
I think on this one that it comes down to if a TPG would note this as an error just based on the weight.
_________________ Ed
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Error NutMember
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:54 am |
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Hey Guys thanks for all of Your help. I would agree with Ed I think that it is probably just an underweight planchet. Just another coin put up for the kids and one day grandkids.
Thanks Again to Everyone and to Ed for help with the pictures.
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:30 pm |
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1. There is NO chance that this coin was struck with anything other than 1974 dies.
2. There is NO chance this was struck on a planchet intended for a 1982 or later coin. The idea of changing the composition of the cent hadn't even been thought of in 1974.
3. The coin is a mint error and is worth a premium value. Maybe not a large one, but a premium nonetheless.
4. There is no post mint damage on this coin.
5. Even if just an underweight planchet, the coin should still be certified and protected by a grading company. I would recommend ANACS or NGC for this one.
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CoinboyJayMember
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:19 pm |
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Tony,
So now an expert (C.D.) has declared that
"3. The coin is a mint error and is worth a premium value. Maybe not a large one, but a premium nonetheless."
the question becomes.... is it worth the $40-$50 it will cost to ship it and have it slabbed?
My point is you are not going to make a $20 coin worth $60-$70 just because it's slabbed.
Maybe this one is worth more, or maybe it's worth it TO YOU to find out what it really is and spend the $.
Cheers,
JAY
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GabeSenior Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:09 pm |
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Could this been struck on a foreign planchet?
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mikediamondAdvanced Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:58 pm |
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Cents struck on rolled-thin planchets generally sell for about $5 in this weight range. So don't bother slabbing it.
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