Possible New Class 9 Obverse

[Bob P]

Recently, coppercoins.com started listing the 'wavy step' and 'extra column' varieties. It is a general consensus that any doubling that occurs during the 'single squeeze' hubbing process is considered the class 9 (shifted hub) doubling. It has occured to me that with as many wavy steps and extra column doubled dies out there, there were no class 9 obverse doubled dies where the doubling occurs in the middle of the die. I may have found one yesterday, and I am posting the pics here for your discussion, opinions, rebuttals...whatever. What do you all think of this anomaly?
Both pics are of 1993D coins...the first showing the area in question, and the second of a normal 1993D cent.

[wavysteps2003]

If I had one guess as to what the added area is by the ear, I would say die chip or die crack. Without doubling in and around the area, such as the 1997 doubled ear, it would be a very hard case to prove that what you are showing is indeed a doubled die. But then again, stranger things have occured.

Wavysteps2003

[Bob P]

Well BJ...Believe it or not, I had thought about all of that. It is not a die crack, or chip, nor is it a gas bubble. The area is raised without any sharp edges or angles. It does not include any other markings from any other areas such as a lamination peel might. I have looked at it, poked it, and even thought about just throwing it back into the pile, but years of studying coins has told me that this MAY be something else. It still doesn't mean I won't throw it back, but this is interesting stuff.
You say it may not be because there is no doubling in and around the ear...but yet on class 9 doubled die reverses (the extra column type) we are sometimes seeing a very minor little line next to the column that we are now calling doubled dies. Your great collection (and my very limited one) of wavy steps do not necessarily show any doubling at all.
In your opinion BJ...why are we not seeing any class 9 DDOs, where the doubling in near the center of the die? They are still hubbed the same way, and if a hub shifts while making the reverse, why not the obverse? Do you think it is that we may not be looking for them, or that they may not occur?
This is great stuff BJ. Thanks for your input and opinion. Maybe other folks might get involved in the discussion.

[wavysteps2003]

Hi Bob - You definitely have some great points and your word that it is not a die crack or chip is sufficent proof that it may be something else. I would think that another possible area of interest would be the eye, like the many doubled dies of the 1950's that showed some sort of drift to the north/south /east/west of the eye components.

We are in a stage where new, interesting varieties are being found just about every week. We were lulled to sleep by the Mint's theroy of a non-producing doubled die single squeeze. How wrong they were!!!!!

WAVYSTEPS2003

[murphy]

I've always given the area around Lincoln's ear attention when searching through new pennies, but since your post here I've found some ear related errors of my own.
1. This one I think is a Die Clash under Lincoln's ear in the shape of a corner of a square.


2. The second coin is of some oddity that looks like scar tissue under the ear. Hopefully someone can clue me in on what causes this.

3. This coin has similar properties to the reverse of a coin that I saw posted by Bob P (I think). I thought his was weird and never thought I would find one with a weird obverse. lol. Besides the obvious lines coming off LIBERTY, there is a very dark area under the ear, which actually has a mirror-like finish and in hand it looks like it's been polished.