Found - 2000P Type-2

[murphy]

The 2000P is more common than the other type-2 a.k.a Wide AM cents, but it's been a long while since I've found one. There was a time a couple years ago when I would find one, either 1998 or 2000 in every two $50 bags that I searched through. Since I hadn't found any in two years I was wondering if they were already searched out! But today at long last I found one. Whew.

[Bob P]

Congrats Murph! I have not found one in a year or so either. The last one I found was a 1998. I had it certified through my local dealer and it came back as an MS68. This particular one also had the Phantom D.
I guess the moral of the story is to keep searching. They are still out there!

[Gabe]

I have found 3 of these varieties within the past year. I have found 1 2000 wide AM and 2 1998 wide Am.

[wavysteps2003]

I used to find a lot of them also, the 1998 being the less common of the two and when I accumalated about twenty or so of the two dates, I would put them on Ebay as a lot starting at a $1.00 for the opening bid. They always went for a fair price or at least what I thought was a fair price for something found.

I have not discovered one in the last $300.00 worth of Lincoln cents that I have searched. Maybe they are becoming scare or are being horded or both, who knows.

I do have some nice examples in the MS-65 / MS66 range set aside and of course I still search for them, especially the 1999 TYPE II and the 1992-D TYPE I.


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[murphy]

Yeah those 1999 T2 and 1992D T1 cents either one would be a nice find. I have places reserved in my Dansco for them both.
Bob an ms68 Wide AM is a real trophy, like a 10lb Bass on the wall. I have several put back too, but not as nice as yours. And several years ago I had almost 20 and sold most of them on eBay too.

[wavysteps2003]

I knew it would happen; after a long drought, I just found a 2000 TYPE II (WIDE AM).

Now for the 1999.

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[murphy]

Hehehe, wtg! When it rains it pours don't it.

[bruce 1947]

What is the difference between type 1 and type 2 ?

[wavysteps2003]

Hi Bruce - The difference between a type I and a type II is pretty basic. Look at the space between the bottom of the A and M of AMERICA on the reverse of any Lincoln cent after 1992. If the A is touching the M it is a business die or TYPE I; if there is a seperation between the A and the M, it is a proof die or TYPE II.

Now for a little confusion. In 1998, 1999 and 2000, some of the busimess strikes that were made in Philadelphia Mint had a proof die reverse or TYPE II, better known as a wide AM. To make matters even more complicated, the 1999 proof was also made with a business die reverse or TYPE I closed AM.

There was also one more variety that dealt with the spacing between the A and M and that was in 1992 when the Denver Mint accidentallly replaced a reverse die with a die that was for 1993. The 1992 reverse die had the wide AM; in 1993, the reverse die had the A and M touching.

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[bruce 1947]

Thanks Wavy
I have so much to learn, thanks for all your help.

[wavysteps2003]

Any time Bruce. Forgot to mention that the 1998 and the 2000 wide AM or TYPE II or the most common variety found in this bunch. The 1999 wide AM is very uncommon (see thread in the forum under "ERROR COIN QUESTIONS") followed by the 1992-D closed AM and then the 1999 PROOF strike with closed or TYPE I AM.

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[Bob P]

We really should not neglect another important aspect of the two types, and that being the designers initials. On the Type 2 (Wide AM) they are closer to the memorial and a different design. I guess pics would help, so here are the comparisons on a 2000P cent.





Please excuse the typo on the pictures. I do realize it says 200P rather than 2000P on both pics. I just did it in a hurry and didn't pay attention...but the idea gets across...right??

[bruce 1947]

Sorry, it should have said grass I must of hooked it.