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 StevenExpert Member
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 Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:38 pm |
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Might this be the 1938S 1MM-001 VLDS?????????
Steven
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 coopExpert Member
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:44 pm |
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Not sure on what that is for sure. Probably an overlay with 1938S-1MM-001 to see if the location for the mintmark would probably be where to start. That is the first thing to do. it could have been a die gouge or a worn RPM. Whether it is that die or not is the first thing to do. An overlay would give you the answer if the location is the same.
http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1938&die_id=1938s1mm001&die_state=lds
Something I just noticed, The RPM book, page 16 for this RPM lists it as a West and not a North. Looks like a mistake in their book to me. The site has it correct. It is a North.
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 RhubarbSenior Member
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:55 pm |
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Steven,
I agree with Coop, a overlay would tell. Just by viewing the 1938S-1MM-001 on Coppercoins, I would tend to agree that it is a VLDS. Nice find Steven
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StevenExpert Member
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:33 pm |
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Well coop,
The layover seems to line up perfectly as well as the raised area above the primary MM.
Steven
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GabeSenior Member
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:52 pm |
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Steven, it looks like you have made a full-proof case to prove this is 1MM-001. Nice picture editing.
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coopExpert Member
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:20 am |
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Any matching of markers from the LDS die state? The MDS is so strong and the LDS gets weaker, so the VLDS should show more of markes that may have been started on the earlier die states. Scratches can fad if in the fields/die cracks/chips & breaks get progressively worse. But the beginning of a strong marker may be noted on the prievious die state. See if you can find strong markers and see if they carry over from the prievious die state?
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StevenExpert Member
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:35 am |
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The markers listed as the gouge above the N of IN in the EDS that begins to fade in the LDS, the scrathes above EP in the LDS are not visible to me on this coin. However I did notice that at the MM itself inside the upper loop of the S shows, on the sites photos, what appears to be the center curve of the secondary MM. and that is present on this coin. I do not find and chips or cracks.
Attributing is a pain huh 
But a fun kinda pain 
Steven
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