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 kenSenior Member
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Searching a bu roll of 1953 cents today and came across this one.Is this a retained cud or something else.Thank you in advance for your comments.
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 eagamesExpert Member
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:37 pm |
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I'd say it's a die crack with some die chips forming. But still a neat one.
To be a CUD a section of the edge of the die must seperate (fall off or stay retained). The difference is this one has not gone all the way to the rim or fell off yet, it's still a crack. Maybe after more use that crack could grow and the section could come off then it would be a CUD.
Just my opinion 
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 coopExpert Member
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:46 pm |
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That's were my gum ended up. LOL I would say a die break with several chips. I bet that one couldn't sit flat on a table. Its BU (Butt Ugly)
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kenSenior Member
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:02 pm |
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Hi Ed and Coop,There isn't any gunk on the coin,just the discoloration.There does appear to be an extra layer of heads on the top ones though and the little chip on the lines.Must have been a large die crack  Thank you for your responses,Ken
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 KurtSSenior Member
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:50 pm |
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Interesting location for die chips...I'd call that Lincoln wheat ergot. 
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 RhubarbSenior Member
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:56 pm |
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| Interesting location for die chips...I'd call that Lincoln wheat ergot. |
Now that's a interesting theory. I wonder if wheat would grow at Kennekott http://www.kennecott.com/
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 DickExpert Member
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:04 pm |
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That is a larger version of " The Lavender Pit", in AZ., I doubt wheat would grow there, even in the "tailings".
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eagamesExpert Member
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:45 pm |
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A little CUD, the reverse is weak opposite to the CUD on the obv. Looks like a blank planchet where the CUD is on the obv.
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DickExpert Member
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:54 am |
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Yes, it is, and very cute! nice find, Ed!
Dick
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mikediamondAdvanced Member
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:33 pm |
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It's either an elongated, irregular die chip or a string of connected die chips. It's not a cud because there's no connection to the rim. A cud is a die break in which the outer margin of the field portion of the die, along with the adjacent rim gutter, breaks off. This leaves a featureless lump on the coin that extends in from the edge.
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DickExpert Member
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:51 pm |
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Mike, I thought it did include the rim. maybe not all the rim is visible, giving the impression of being a cud. thanks dor the enlightnment,
Dick
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