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1797 UK Cartwheel Penny
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KurtS
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:15 am Reply with quote

I thought collectors would enjoy seeing this one. I didn't plan to acquire this coin until I ran across this for a steal.
Aside from that, I really like this coin--especially the rims which are very square with no major dings, which is scarce on this issue due to its weight and softness of the copper. Very Happy

This coin was minted for only one year because it was very unpopular due to size and weight. It's pure copper, 36mm and 28.35 grams. Since it weighed 1 ounce, it became popular among shopkeepers to use on scales for measuring out goods for sale. Most cartwheels did not survive in this condition.



I've also been searching online for a penny with the matching die crack on the reverse. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:40 am Reply with quote

Just wanted to comment that these are very nice images. Good going.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:45 am Reply with quote

Thanks Chuck! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:34 am Reply with quote

Kurt, I'll say this, "You have your work cut out for you"! I have read somewhere, too about the "cartwheels
being used for weighin out the customers orders, due to the accuracy of the weight of the coin. Good luck in your quest!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:39 am Reply with quote

Nice, Kurt! I've found two of these while metal detecting about 15 years ago. Neither was in the condition your's is in. Mine were so worn and smooth you could just barely make out the images on it. I found mine on the river banks, here, in Winnipeg.
This one is stamped.



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:09 pm Reply with quote

Wow, that's an interesting find even if worn, because I hear these coins did not see much use, and yours obviously found their way to Canada. Have you ever found a meaning to the counterstamp "P o D"? Thanks for posting the pics! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:02 pm Reply with quote

I worked as an amateur archaeologist for a period of time several years ago and while searching for arrowheads and pottery sherds, I would come across these fairly (often along with French coins). All were dated around the late 1700's to the mid 1800's. Of course I couldn't keep them personally but I was always thrilled when I found them. The fur traders and early pioneers would camp along the river on their way to the forts, that would account for some of the coins from that time period showing up on the riverbanks.

As for the counterstamp, I haven't found anythng at all about it.
I actually think the first letter is an "R". You can just barely make out the leg.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:54 pm Reply with quote

Way cool coin Kurt. VERY nice condition and a great history lesson also, THANKS!

IKANDIGGIT,
A great way to find history....good for you.
Not much like that out here in the Pacific Northwest since we've only been civilized just over 100 years.

Cheers,
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