coppercoins.com
 
Index div  FAQ  div  Search  div  Memberlist  div  Usergroups  div  Register  div  Log in 
back to coppercoins home
Username:    Password:      Log me on automatically each visit    
coppercoins.com Forum Index arrow General Discussion - World Copper arrow India 1925 1/12 Anna with strong clash

India 1925 1/12 Anna with strong clash
Post new topic   Reply to topic
Author Message

KurtS
Senior Member
Senior Member

Posts: 875
Joined: 15 Feb 2008
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:00 pm Reply with quote

Thanks to a friend, I received this nice 1925 1/12 Anna today.
It's pretty cool seeing a clash this strong, where the obverse/reverse markings can be easily identified.
I especially like how strong the "I" in INDIA is under George V's chin. Very Happy

View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

GarryN
Expert Member
Expert Member

Posts: 1296
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: Chicago
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:16 pm Reply with quote

That is quite a coin. Wink
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger

Dick
Expert Member
Expert Member

Posts: 5780
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Location: Rialto, CA.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:12 pm Reply with quote

Kurt, That is a very nice clash! it is not often that the coin itself serves to identify the source of the remnants from a clash. That one is a beauty.
Dick

_________________
" Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before".
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

KurtS
Senior Member
Senior Member

Posts: 875
Joined: 15 Feb 2008
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:57 am Reply with quote

Yep, it doesn't get much clearer than this...especially when you can see both sides of the coin at once. Laughing
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

Dick
Expert Member
Expert Member

Posts: 5780
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Location: Rialto, CA.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:22 am Reply with quote

Kurt, judging from the clarity of the clash, it must have been among the first few coins struck, afterwards.
Dick

_________________
" Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before".
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

KurtS
Senior Member
Senior Member

Posts: 875
Joined: 15 Feb 2008
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:07 am Reply with quote

I was thinking those faint outlines wouldn't stay that sharp for long... Confused
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

Dick
Expert Member
Expert Member

Posts: 5780
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Location: Rialto, CA.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:35 pm Reply with quote

That is for sure! That is a very good clash. Those are the ones I look for, but QC, usually takes care of them appearing, or better said, the liklihood of one showing.
Dick

_________________
" Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before".
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

GarryN
Expert Member
Expert Member

Posts: 1296
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: Chicago
PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:59 am Reply with quote

Is any of the dotted border clashed on the obverse? I assume the date would not be clashed anywhere.
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger

Dick
Expert Member
Expert Member

Posts: 5780
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Location: Rialto, CA.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:31 am Reply with quote

On the contrary, GarryN, what is on the die, and naturally on the coin, will be affected ion the event of a clash. The date is in the lower area of the bust, and would be affected. Now that is taking into consideration the size of the lower bust area, as well as the size of the date. In this case, (not having seen the whole OBV/REV), it would leave room for some error, but I don't see how the date could "escape" un-touched in a clasjh IMHO.
Dick

_________________
" Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before".
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

KurtS
Senior Member
Senior Member

Posts: 875
Joined: 15 Feb 2008
PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:06 pm Reply with quote

There are a few of the inner beads from the reverse above the KGV portrait, as is the outer floral wreath. It's too bad the date is directly opposite the king's shoulder area, as you can just make out in the clash.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

GarryN
Expert Member
Expert Member

Posts: 1296
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: Chicago
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:16 pm Reply with quote

I'm not a technician, but I would think that the clash only occurs on the face of the die and imparts the outline of the devices to the other face, the fields of the coin, so to speak. So in this case, when the dies clashed, the outline of the date would be within the coat and would not be hitting anything, because this is a medal turn coin. Am I missing anything?
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger

KurtS
Senior Member
Senior Member

Posts: 875
Joined: 15 Feb 2008
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:44 pm Reply with quote

That's basically my conclusion as well. Very Happy
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

GarryN
Expert Member
Expert Member

Posts: 1296
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: Chicago
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:47 pm Reply with quote

Thats right, you did say that Idea maybe I don't need glasses anymore... Shocked (TIC)
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger

Dick
Expert Member
Expert Member

Posts: 5780
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Location: Rialto, CA.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:33 pm Reply with quote

My only comment here would be that the clash affects BOTH DIES, due to the "face-to-face" contact. The areas that can be polished to remove as much of the remnants from each die is limited by the design factors, which limit how much can actually be removed, without affecting the design. Among the many factors that determine the "end result of the clash that will be transferred to the next planchet fed into the chamber, will be ths spacing of the dies, sans planchet, This usuallty is set w/o any blank/planchet in place, and tested. Once set, the onlt thing that would affect the dies, would be a clash. The amount of the clash being struck into the planchet, will be the number of planchets struck, immediately afterwards, and the "wear" on the dies reducing the clarity of the clash remnants on the coin. IMHO.
Dick

_________________
" Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before".
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

GarryN
Expert Member
Expert Member

Posts: 1296
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: Chicago
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:08 am Reply with quote

That says it all, the point being that the date would not transfer to the obverse die on this coin.
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic
Page 1 of 1
coppercoins.com Forum Index arrow General Discussion - World Copper arrow India 1925 1/12 Anna with strong clash




coppercoins.com © 2001-2005 All times are GMT - 6 Hours