| Author |
Message |
KurtSSenior Member
Posts: 875 Joined: 15 Feb 2008
|
|
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:00 pm |
|
|
Thanks to a friend, I received this nice 1925 1/12 Anna today.
It's pretty cool seeing a clash this strong, where the obverse/reverse markings can be easily identified.
I especially like how strong the "I" in INDIA is under George V's chin.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
GarryNExpert Member
Posts: 1296 Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: Chicago
|
|
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:16 pm |
|
|
That is quite a coin.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
|
|
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:12 pm |
|
|
Kurt, That is a very nice clash! it is not often that the coin itself serves to identify the source of the remnants from a clash. That one is a beauty.
Dick
_________________ " Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before".
|
|
|
|
|
 |
KurtSSenior Member
Posts: 875 Joined: 15 Feb 2008
|
|
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:57 am |
|
|
Yep, it doesn't get much clearer than this...especially when you can see both sides of the coin at once.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
|
|
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:22 am |
|
|
Kurt, judging from the clarity of the clash, it must have been among the first few coins struck, afterwards.
Dick
_________________ " Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before".
|
|
|
|
|
 |
KurtSSenior Member
Posts: 875 Joined: 15 Feb 2008
|
|
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:07 am |
|
|
I was thinking those faint outlines wouldn't stay that sharp for long...
|
|
|
|
|
 |
DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
|
|
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:35 pm |
|
|
That is for sure! That is a very good clash. Those are the ones I look for, but QC, usually takes care of them appearing, or better said, the liklihood of one showing.
Dick
_________________ " Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before".
|
|
|
|
|
 |
GarryNExpert Member
Posts: 1296 Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: Chicago
|
|
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:59 am |
|
|
|
Is any of the dotted border clashed on the obverse? I assume the date would not be clashed anywhere.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
|
|
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:31 am |
|
|
On the contrary, GarryN, what is on the die, and naturally on the coin, will be affected ion the event of a clash. The date is in the lower area of the bust, and would be affected. Now that is taking into consideration the size of the lower bust area, as well as the size of the date. In this case, (not having seen the whole OBV/REV), it would leave room for some error, but I don't see how the date could "escape" un-touched in a clasjh IMHO.
Dick
_________________ " Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before".
|
|
|
|
|
 |
KurtSSenior Member
Posts: 875 Joined: 15 Feb 2008
|
|
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:06 pm |
|
|
|
There are a few of the inner beads from the reverse above the KGV portrait, as is the outer floral wreath. It's too bad the date is directly opposite the king's shoulder area, as you can just make out in the clash.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
GarryNExpert Member
Posts: 1296 Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: Chicago
|
|
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:16 pm |
|
|
|
I'm not a technician, but I would think that the clash only occurs on the face of the die and imparts the outline of the devices to the other face, the fields of the coin, so to speak. So in this case, when the dies clashed, the outline of the date would be within the coat and would not be hitting anything, because this is a medal turn coin. Am I missing anything?
|
|
|
|
|
 |
KurtSSenior Member
Posts: 875 Joined: 15 Feb 2008
|
|
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:44 pm |
|
|
That's basically my conclusion as well.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
GarryNExpert Member
Posts: 1296 Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: Chicago
|
|
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:47 pm |
|
|
Thats right, you did say that maybe I don't need glasses anymore... (TIC)
|
|
|
|
|
 |
DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
|
|
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:33 pm |
|
|
My only comment here would be that the clash affects BOTH DIES, due to the "face-to-face" contact. The areas that can be polished to remove as much of the remnants from each die is limited by the design factors, which limit how much can actually be removed, without affecting the design. Among the many factors that determine the "end result of the clash that will be transferred to the next planchet fed into the chamber, will be ths spacing of the dies, sans planchet, This usuallty is set w/o any blank/planchet in place, and tested. Once set, the onlt thing that would affect the dies, would be a clash. The amount of the clash being struck into the planchet, will be the number of planchets struck, immediately afterwards, and the "wear" on the dies reducing the clarity of the clash remnants on the coin. IMHO.
Dick
_________________ " Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before".
|
|
|
|
|
 |
GarryNExpert Member
Posts: 1296 Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: Chicago
|
|
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:08 am |
|
|
|
That says it all, the point being that the date would not transfer to the obverse die on this coin.
|
|
|
|
|
 |
|